Hello gents, we are glad to introduce our new website dedicated to foreigners’ support in Ukraine – In2ukraine Here you can find anything you may need in Ukraine and even more.
Hello gents, we are glad to introduce our new website dedicated to foreigners’ support in Ukraine – In2ukraine Here you can find anything you may need in Ukraine and even more.
– First consulting – free
– Guide & Interpreter – $15-25 p/h (depends on occasion) ($100 per day)
– Written translation – $5-10 per letter (depends on content)
– Translation of letters – $100 per month for 2 persons
– Phone translation – $5 per phone call
– Trip planning – $150
– Legal advice – $50 p/h
– Airport “Borisipol” pick up – $40 (taxi + interpreter)
– Accommodation booking – $40 per booking
– Mobile phone + sim rent – $15 per week
– Flowers & Gifts delivery – $40 for delivery + flowers’ price
– Transportation reservation – $10 for one reservation
– Russian classes – $15 per class
– Woman search (matchmaking):
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First you google for a dating agency site or you find an advertisement or the advertisement finds you. No doubt you will come across the most popular sites which are the biggest scam residence. No matter whether it is free registration or you pay something, anyway you will pay for letters and video chats.
As soon as you are there you will start receiving letters (you will have to pay for them) from fabulous beauties at their 20-s. All of them will be mad about you from the first sight and you will start spending your credits for sending forth and back similar writings about love, feelings and genuine intentions which are worth nothing. If you are smart enough you will leave them if not you will be scammed badly.
OK, let’s imagine that you quit the agency site. When you register on the dating agency site they ask for your email address. Be ready that your address will be given to hundreds of gold diggers after you quit and you will start receiving letters with the text like: “Hi Darling, my name is …. and I found your address on the Internet. I am 20(21,22,23,23,25….) years old. I believe that the age isn’t something that can prevent people from loving each other bla-bla-bla… Let’s learn more about each other, I want to see your photos, here are my photos (a row of pics with a stunning model type beauty), I am looking forward to hearing from you soon.”
Well, why not to trust them? You are only in your 40s, 50s, 60s and she is a gorgeous young model. Of course you have been made for each other. And they are writing in English. You start a close relation in your letters, but suddenly you receive a message, either from her or from an interpreting agency, and you find out that the poor thing doesn’t speak English and all the time she has been using services of a translation agency to communicate with you. And now she has run out of money to pay. Apparently you will offer to pay translation fees.
Now you will get a receipt from a translation agency with some price. It will not be very expensive for you. Well, $100 or $300 or $500 a month. It is not too much to pay for true love, is it?The estimate your income and form the price individually. And no matter that such an agency has never existed and the fees they demand are 10 times higher than at a usual interpreting bureau in any Ukrainian city. We have never in our practice found the agencies mentioned in the issued receipts. However, the new, more and more intimate photos of the girl with standard phrases will make you pay.
Next stage is education. Doesn’t she speak English? This is not a problem. There are dozens of English schools in every city. She will tell you that it is impossible to use interpreters all the time. She knows a very good English school or an English teacher. It won’t cost too much. Of course not, it will cost only 5 times more than good teachers and schools charge. Recently I had a client whose girlfriend asked for €1.000 per month for her Norwegian classes. The man got a receipt from that most expensive school in Ukraine. After the check we found out that there wasn’t neither such school nor such teacher. We found a car repair garage at the address given in the receipt. Moreover, there were no teachers of Norwegian at all in that city.
Money requests. Your girlfriend tells you that the situation is Ukraine is so bad and she is almost starving. She has a sick grandma, father at war, little sisters with no breakfast before school. She hardly earns $50 a month working hard at her job. She can’t afford even a night out in cheap cafe. Poor things. Although the situation in Ukraine is not so easy, most of the girls we checked had latest I-phones, wore designer cloths, visited fancy restaurants. Nobody is starving in Ukraine even in the war zone. But of course you will offer her your help. So this is the way when the woman doesn’t need to ask for money, she just puts you in a situation when you will offer it by yourself.
This trick is for very intelligent women. Those who are not as clever will start asking giving the reasons above and more than that. What surprises me is that the men receiving women’s photos in latest fashion, wealthy looks, expensive furs, from good restaurants, in nice houses, still can’t just turn their logic on. Women of these looks just can’t be starving.
Lies in details. It is not so difficult to see whether the woman lies or not. Everything is in the details. She gives you lots of them. Doesn’t she speak English? Check it! I had a client whose girlfriend told him she didn’t speak English at all. I went on her social profile and saw pictures of her as a teacher in an English class. I showed him the photos. He said he had seen them already!!! She told him she was a teacher of something but not English. But that was a classroom for English language which was obvious. The blackboard was filled with English phrases. The walls were in English posters. How a man could be so naive, not to say stupid? I found her students in her friend’s list and they confirmed she was their English teacher.
So this is what we do first, we check the details. It might be hard for you. But for us in Ukraine everything is obvious. And here comes the last trick. They just deny. A scammer will never accept she is a scammer. Whatever you find out about her. Once we showed a man his girlfriend kissing passionately another man. With lips and tongue. He confronted her. She told him it was her beloved cousin and it is a usual kissing between cousins. And you know what, he believed her. The scammer know one thing – more obvious the lie is, easier they can convince that it is the truth.
Sometimes men just can’t believe that a girl who has written him so many warm words of love can be a fake. They will introduce you to their parents, accept your engagement ring, meet your family, plan future wedding. Who will care about the details after that? Who will see the lies so close and obvious? This is what happened with one of my client. He ended up scammed and frustrated trying to punish the girl who scammed him, his parents and his belief in women.
By the way, never try to punish a scammer legally. You will spend years of useless efforts. I have never heard of a successful result. Just quit and don’t repeat the same mistakes.
Take care guys, and check the woman before opening your heart and your wallet for her.
These are some essential things and as for me they are obvious. However, all the time I meet men who don’t see anything wrong in usual scammer technologies and are trapped and scammed.
The things below don’t mean that the woman you are corresponding with is a 100 per cent scammer. They mean that such a woman is definitely worth checking.
So guys, as soon as you see any of these flags, just stop, think a bit and order a check. That will really save your time, money and nerves.
Ukraine’s internet romance industry is booming – despite the unrest. But after chatting online, travelling to Odessa and wooing women on flashy dates, most men fly home alone and far poorer. Are they unlucky in love, or have they been scammed?
These are trying times for Odessa. After the annexation of Crimea, pro-Russian forces are stirring tension in this Black Sea port, and there are weekly standoffs between demonstrators who want to be part of Ukraine and those who want closer ties to Russia. But for all the political and economic chaos that has engulfed Ukraine in the past three months, one industry is still thriving: the internet romance trade.
The economies of several Ukrainian cities are boosted by the surreal and disingenuous online bride business, and Odessa is the biggest hub. It does not take long for a visitor to the city to stumble upon an “international date” – there are legions of western men in town meeting with young women they have met online, usually with the conversation facilitated by a translator. At internet cafes and homes across the city, thousands of women spend hours each day chatting to prospective suitors online.
There is nothing like the prospect of economic hardship to facilitate intercontinental liaisons, and so, far from business drying up in recent months, the romance and “bride” trade is booming. If anything, there are now more western men planning trips to Odessa than there were last year, when I accompanied a “romance tour” to Ukraine for a magazine story. I spent a week in Odessa with 29 men, all of them hoping to find a wife during their trip. They were mainly Americans, but there were also Brits, an Italian and a Saudi on the tour.
I went with a company called Anastasia International, which is no grimy basement operation, but a huge company with a projected revenue last year of $140m (£84m). It has thousands of women in Ukraine and across the world on its books, available for chats and in-person meetings with lonely bachelors across the world looking for a wife.
As internet dating has gone mainstream over the past decade, Anastasia is attempting to rebrand what was once called the “mail-order bride” industry as something modern and progressive. This is no longer the preserve of seedy and exploitative men seeking vulnerable women from impoverished backgrounds to work as a longterm sex slave, the marketing suggests. This is “international dating”, a civilised way to find romance without borders.
Except that the branding is still somewhat disturbing. The men pay for every minute they chat online to a woman, something that it becomes clear is a dangerous part of the business model. The company claims on its website that finding a woman in Ukraine is like “dating a model, but with the values of your grandmother”. The men featured in testimonials are sick of western women, whom they insist have forgotten “family values”.
‘This is game time’
Armed with this information, I was fully expecting to spend a week being nauseated by odious men preying on vulnerable women, and there were certainly a few on the trip whose misogyny reached prize-winning levels. But the overall story was far more complex.
“This is game time and they’re blowing me off,” Todd told me, mystified, one day over breakfast. It took the 43-year-old bread-delivery man from Delaware several months of working overtime to be able to afford the tour to Ukraine; he often clocked seven night shifts a week in order to save the roughly $5,000 (£3,000) he paid to spend a week in Odessa, and hopefully find a wife.
Todd, who had not succeeded in finding his other half at home, had something of a compulsive side to his personality. He spent months methodically whittling down 1,500 possible brides on Anastasia’s site to two top candidates. He then spent thousands of hours and thousands of dollars chatting with them online. Things were going swimmingly with both women. He assumed that his trip to Odessa would involve picking the one he liked most and taking her back with him. But when he arrived, neither of them answered his calls.
While Todd’s expectations for what a Ukrainian bride might offer were patently unrealistic, it was troubling to watch him venture ever further down the path of disappointment. Many of the men on the tour were less sympathetic characters than Todd, but all of them were lonely. Some of them were disillusioned with dating scenes in the west, where women did not give them a look; others recovering from a divorce or the death of a spouse.
Another man I spent a lot of time with was Stephen, a 62-year-old from Texas, long-divorced, who was on his 11th trip to Ukraine with the desperate hope of finding a wife.
“I want a companion, because there are things I would like to do back home, but I don’t want to do them alone,” he told me. “I want to see the Grand Canyon, but I don’t want to see it on my own. I’m tired of having nobody to share my life with.”
Stephen ended up meeting a pianist named Elena on the tour. On date two she told him she thought he could be her soulmate. By the end of the week he was sure he had found his future life partner. It was an expensive week, with the dinners, taxis, and payment for a translator all adding up, but Stephen was delighted that he had found love.
But love in Odessa is not all it seems. Perhaps 10 years ago, the scenario had been what I imagined, with men swooping in, and women keen to swap the hard grind of poverty-stricken Ukraine for a new life in the US, even if it was a ramshackle house in a North Dakotan town or a sleepy midwestern farm, rather than a Manhattan penthouse or LA beachfront home.
Now, it seems, things are different. None of the men I became close to on my tour ended up in lasting relationships, and the majority appeared to fall victim to a number of sophisticated scams.
I left Stephen ready to propose, but two months later he told me by email that it had all unravelled. The woman let him know she needed more time before making a commitment, but suggested that he return to Odessa and continue their expensive platonic dates.
Todd did not even get to the date stage; in retrospect, perhaps a lucky escape. The women took their cut of cash for chatting with him, but did not answer his calls when he arrived. He later wrote to me: “It took me about a month to process what happened and get over it. I’ve decided to close that chapter in my life and move on. I am now concentrating on me and my life and to do things that make me a better person. And to pursue the other hopes and dreams that I have. Will I ever find my other half? One can only wonder. At least I can say I tried. If I die a bachelor, so be it.”
I was able to uncover exactly how the scams work due to a chance encounter with Alina, one of the women involved, who felt weighed down by her collusion in what she called “emotional prostitution”. She explained the whole sordid array of techniques, from a light impersonalised online-chatting version to a full-service chauffeur-driven platinum fraud, where men are rinsed of cash for a full week in Odessa, thinking they are cementing a lifelong relationship while actually they are being strung along on platonic dates that end with them dispatched to the airport with heavy hearts and empty wallets. Many of them come with ridiculous expectations, of course, but I am not sure that anyone deserves this treatment.
For the women as well, although hundreds of them make a living from the scams, it is not an easy psychological burden to bear. Alina was evidence of that, and 29-year-old Chris, the tour’s youngest member, found that when he confronted his date with accusations about the nature of the business, she burst into tears and said she felt awful, but needed the money to support her mother after her father had died. Other women were genuinely looking for a young and interesting partner and wanted to leave Ukraine, but spent hours chatting with elderly men in order to make money.
Anastasia International, while not directly colluding in the scams, runs a highly profitable business model that allows them to flourish. While real and lasting liaisons do occasionally form through the site, more often it only serves to increase the concentric circles of mistrust, disappointment and heartbreak for all involved. Anastasia insists that it weeds out scams whenever it finds them, and has banned some women from the site. It also says it will reimburse clients who fall victims to scams, and provides advice on how to avoid them.
Larry Cervantes, the company spokesman, wrote to me after the tour: “It’s true that some of these guys are spending money they don’t have. But guys go broke in the US chasing American women, as do Brits chasing Brits. So what’s the difference? Throughout history men have pursued the unattainable, and throughout history they’ve made fools of themselves. How is this any different?”
But the difference, of course, is that the company is making a huge profit from the men making fools of themselves, and while many women are making money out of the schemes too, it is not clear that it is beneficial to them in the longer term.
Far from ending the practice, the recent unrest in Ukraine has only enhanced it. Alina told me that her friends working in the business are expecting several American men to arrive in the coming days, while the less discreetly named sugardaddyforme.com says it has seen record numbers of Ukrainian women sign up in recent months. The new Ukrainian government has rather a lot on its plate, but ending the trade in emotional exploitation is something they should tackle sooner rather than later.
Taken from The Guardian
This is an experience which occurs for the first time in my practice of working with foreigners in Ukraine. I am sure all of us know stories of incredible deceptions. Many of you have met scammers whose aim was your money, not you. And you spent money on them. You sent them certain amounts, paid their expenses, bought expensive gifts. The result is always the same. You realize that they have scammed you. How much money do you need to waste to understand the girl is a scam? 2k, 5k, 10k?
My new friend, a citizen of the UK, has given to a girl $25k in cash. Not to mention all other expenses and gifts. And I know he worked hard to earn it. They were engaged and the girl even visited his parents in India and was given all the honors a future wife can be given in a noble Indian family.
The story is a long one so I will make it short. The girl asked for money from the guy’s parents promising to give it back soon. They gave her $12k from their retirement money. But the girl never gave it back. Soon she stopped communicating with her fiancé. The man started an investigation and found out that his fiancée while being engaged with him was going out with 4 more other foreigners (when her man was in the UK) and they were giving her money too. So she ended up a very prominent scammer and a real whore as she had sex with all those men to get their money.
She refused to give back anything, neither the money the man and his family had given her, nor all the expensive presents and the engagement ring. The man was visiting Ukraine once a month. He found out all the information about her, her foreign lovers and her local boyfriends she was living with. He got information from her vk account and even information from her bank account. He met her parents and friends. What he wanted was to make her give the engagement ring back and the money she’d taken from his parent. No use.
When he met me and told the story I was quite sure he could do nothing with it, I told him just to forget about this nightmare. Otherwise he would waste more time and money with no result. But he was very persistent. So we found a good lawyer. The lawyer told him that his chances to win the process were miserable. All the money was given voluntarily and according to the civil and criminal code of Ukraine she had committed no crime.
The only chance was that she didn’t know about the possible legal consequences of such a lawsuit and would agree to cooperate on the stage of police activities connected with the procedure of the legal statement. So they drew up the statement and the lawyer took it to the police. First the police refused to accept it at all. But at last they agreed at least to bother the girl with questioning her. All the hope was that she would be afraid and would compensate at least something.
But she turned out to be a tough cookie. She just told the police to f@ck off and not to bother her with nonsense cases anymore.
The scammed man didn’t give up though. Now we are working with a lawyer specializing in civil cases. We want to get this case directly to the court. And the lawyer says the chances for success are 1 to 99 and even the chance that the court won’t refuse to listen to it is tiny.
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